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咦，怎么就没有喜欢艾夫斯的朋友来讨论一下呢？自己顶一下喽！

我刚收了他的Violin Sonata，2CD，ARTE NOVA出的

Ives谈自己的Violin Sonata

The Pre-First Violin Sonata was started when I was in college，and finished the first year or so in New York about 1901.The second movement(Largo) I have kept and another (the first movement) was worked into the Second Sonata.The another(Allegro non troppo) I didn’t think were much good and I didn’t keep them.
The First Sonata was written in 1903 and 1908. This Sonata is a kind of reflection and remembrace of the people’ outdoor gatherings holidays celebrations and Camp Meetings suggesting some of the songs，tunes and hymns，together with some of the sounds of nature. The first movement may， in a way，suggest something that nature and human nature would sing out to each other. The second movement，a mood when "The Old Oaken Bucket" and "Tramp，Tramp，the Boys are Marching" would come over the hills，trying to relive the sadness of the old civil war days.The third movement，the hymns and actions at the farmers’ Camp Meeting，inciting the to "Work， for the Night is coming".
The Second Sonata is an attempt to express the feeling and fervor-a Fervor that was after more vociferous than religious-with which the hymns and revival tunes were sung at Camp Meetings held in New England in the 70’s and 80’s. The tunes used are:"Beulah Land"，"There’ll Be No More Sorrow"，and "Every Hour I Need Thee".Note:The movements are reflective of their titles:"Autumn"，"In the Barn" and "The Revival" with nature heard all around the open church-service tent and the preacher whipping up to a bell-like climax.
The Third Sonata was finished in 1914.The first movement is a kind of magnified hymn of four different verses， all ending with the same refrain. The second movement is based on the ragtime stuff. It was written around 1902 and 1904. The last movement is an experiment: The free fantasia is first. The working-out developes into themes，rather than from them. The coda consisits of the themes for the first time in their entirety. As the tonality throughout is supposed to take care of itself，there is no key signatures. This last movement was written after the Pre-First Sonata， as was the first. These themes are well enough， but there is an attempt to please the soft-ears and be good. This was a slum-back， due， I am certain， to a visit in Redding: A primadonna violinist came in and， after a lot of talk， started to play the first movement of the First Sonata. He didn’t even get through the first page. He said "This can’t be played. It’s not music. It makes no sense." After he went， I have a kind of feeling which I’ve had off and on when other more or less well-known musicians have seen or played(or try to play) some of my music. I felt there must be something wrong with me. But these depressions didn’t last for long. I began to feel that，if I wanted to write music，to me，seemed worthwhile，I must keep away from "musicians".
The Fourth Sonata is but an attempt to write a sonata which Moss White(then 12-years old) could play. The first movement kept to this idea fairly well，but the second got away from it，and the third got in between. Moss couldn’t play the last two， and neither could his teacher. It is called "Children Day" because it is based principally on the church hymns sung at the children’s service. The children would get marching and shouting the hymns. The slow movement recalls a serious time for children， "Yes，Jesus Loves Me"-except when Old Stone Mason Bell and Farmer John would get up and shout or sing and some of the boys would rush out and throw stones down on the rocks in the river(con sluga rocko). At the end of the slow movement a distant Amen would be heard. The third movement is more of the nature of the first. As the boys get marching again some of the old men would join in and march as fast (smoetimes) as the boys and sing waht they felt and "Gather at the River". It was all composed quickly within two or three weeks in the fall of 1916.

From the book "Memos" by Charles E.Ives

谢谢zf2065兄提供的翔实的资料，不过还请zf2065不要完全引用，而说一点自己主观上的东西好吗？

这是维特根斯坦《逻辑哲学论》中的名言：“对于不可说的必须沉默。”

说个实在的问题，艾夫斯的音乐通俗易懂吗？好听吗？

艾夫斯的第三交响曲是一幅大型的野外风景画，宽广，恬静。
通俗易懂是个什么标准？悦耳吗？

可以这么说吧，也可以理解为“朗朗上口”的意思！

优美的音乐不一定是伟大的，否则拉威尔就成为贝多芬了。
大致意思引用自Copland《听乐三境界》

但拉威尔的音乐确实没有贝多芬的好听！

“好听”这个标准因人而异，况且这只是你一人的主观见解。何不来个投票？